Bryan is joined by ESPN’s Joe Buck to debate his perspective on Damar Hamlin’s damage in the Bills-Bengals recreation. They contact on the sales space’s fast response to Hamlin’s damage, the duty of an announcer in moments of uncertainty, and the way the gamers and coaches dealt with the scenario. Later, they revisit Buck’s first yr Monday Night Footballtalk about preparation for the upcoming playoff recreation between Tampa Bay and the Dallas Cowboys, and recall his weekly desires with visits from his late father.
Host: Bryan Curtis
Guest: Joe Buck
Associate Producer: Erika Cervantes
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In the transcript beneath, Bryan Curtis and Joe Buck talk about Buck’s expertise in the announcer’s sales space as first responders tending to Damar Hamlin, and the warning he wished to take earlier than telling viewers at dwelling that Hamlin was receiving CPR.
Brian Curtis: You advised viewers at dwelling that he was receiving CPR after, I believe, the third business that you just guys had taken.
Joe Buck: Yeah.
Curtis: Was there a lag between you having the ability to see that occuring on the subject, and also you delivering that info to the public? Just realizing that, “As quickly as I say this, all people at dwelling goes to be eager about this fully in another way”?
Buck: Yes. Yeah. I wished to be actually certain that what I noticed was really what was occurring. The worst factor you are able to do, I imply, you’re taking one thing on a small degree—and also you’re taught as a child, if you get into broadcasting, do not make assumptions about accidents, and we’re not speaking about one thing of this diploma. There have been many instances the place I’ve seen a man limp off the subject and you are like, “Well, he is clearly down with a leg damage,” be it ankle, or knee, or no matter, and you then learn the subsequent day that it was a dislocated shoulder. I imply, you possibly can’t make that assumption, or actually something.
So as a result of we weren’t in there, and since no one’s saying something—and rightly so—to provide us, the community, real-time updates alongside these strains, I simply wished to make certain, and I believe I type of took a straw ballot round these on my headset, whether or not it is the guys in the sales space, Phil [Dean] and Jimmy [Platt] in the truck, Lisa [Salters] down on the sideline: “They have been giving him CPR, proper?” I imply, it is humorous how your mind begins to work, and you are like, “All proper. It’s CPR. okay That’s what that is known as. And that is what we simply noticed.” And so, yeah. I wished to be one hundred pc certain that if I stated that, that’s what occurred.
Curtis: Because as quickly as you utter these phrases, all of us sitting at dwelling go, “Oh, wait, this isn’t a traditional soccer damage. This is now a matter of life and dying that is occurring earlier than us.”
Buck: Yeah. And I notice the energy of that. It would not matter who’s sitting there saying it. The dialog, and the ideas, and the prayers, and every part else that follows adjustments the minute that sentence comes out of your mouth. So that was actually, I imply, you do not wish to be unsuitable about something, however you certain as heck do not wish to be unsuitable about that.
Curtis: Does the concept of a catastrophic damage sit someplace in your head if you’re calling a soccer recreation?
Buck: no It by no means has. I do not suppose it is ever been in my thoughts, like, “Well, you higher be ready in case one thing alongside these strains occurs.” I’ve by no means gone there mentally. Maybe that is a shortcoming. I have no idea. Well, I’m extra ready now than I believe I’ve ever been, however you do not know till you sit there and do it. I do not know that there is any class for that. I do not know that I may describe what that feeling’s prefer to anyone, if you’re sitting there with a stay microphone in entrance of your mouth, and also you’re seeing that with your personal eyes.
So yeah, I do not suppose I’d ever actually considered something alongside the strains of catastrophic damage. I believe again, I’m sufficiently old to recollect the Joe Theismann leg break, and what that did to me as a viewer watching it, and the way jarring that was.
And you are doing TV. So I take into consideration Kevin Harlan, who I spent quite a lot of time with that exact night time, who I’ve identified without end, was doing the radio that night time, and what he was perhaps having to explain. TV is a distinct factor, as we have talked about many instances. So you possibly can simply let the photos carry it. There’s not a lot which you could or ought to say, in my view, when all that is going on. The worst factor you are able to do is to start out speculating, which is one other phrase, a nicer phrase for guessing, and making an attempt to use your personal definitions to one thing that in some methods is type of indescribable, actually. So it was, yeah. It was intense.
Curtis: You stated the phrases, “There’s actually nothing to say,” on the air that night time, not less than as soon as, and perhaps a few instances. You’ve talked about that the job adjustments in an occasion like that. So what’s the job, as you see it, at that second?
Buck: I have no idea. I do not know that I’ve the proper reply for that. I do not know that what I may conjure up proper now’s correct, apart from I really feel like as soon as that occurred, and as soon as it was apparent that this was not a standard scenario, I used to be flooded with texts from not simply buddies of mine, however my daughters, and I type of had them in the entrance of my thoughts, and my household in the entrance of my thoughts, and the way I’d describe this to them. And simply taking it step-by-step, and never being hysterical, not being any person who’s going to start out bringing in historic references of different individuals who have had related conditions on the subject or no matter. I simply do not suppose that is the time for that.
So I believe the reply to your query is, simply be a human being. This is about one other one that is in horrible misery down on the subject. And I believe, I’m certain you are going to ask me about the five-minute factor with the league, and I perceive why you wish to ask me that. I believe the irritating factor for me after that is type of settled, is that what came about on that subject is ignored, and it should not be.
I imply, I used to be eager about it at present, realizing I used to be coming on with you. We all know that Don Larsen pitched an ideal recreation in the World Series in 1956. What we noticed that night time on that subject in entrance of 60-plus thousand individuals and a nationwide tv viewers was perfection, the manner that was dealt with on the subject. I’m not speaking about the aftermath, however being there, and witnessing it, and seeing the teamwork, and realizing that they have been ready for that, and God is aware of what number of instances they’ve run by way of that very same situation. “Well, we acquired to run by way of it once more. If this occurs …”
Because I’ve been advised by individuals in the medical business that even in an emergency room, which may not have been dealt with in addition to it was dealt with on that subject, and that is what saved his life. By them getting oxygen in him—and from all people I’ve talked to, and I’m the final thing from a medical knowledgeable—however the nearly fast introduction of oxygen into his system is what has allowed him to no longer solely get out of Cincinnati and get to Buffalo, however get out of the hospital in Buffalo and get dwelling. And to try this with that medical workforce that was down there, with that stress, who is aware of how any of us would ever react in that intense of a scenario. And they nailed it.
And I’m simply so grateful, and I do know the league is, and I do know the Hamlin household is, and the Bills are, and all people is, that that was dealt with in addition to it was on the subject, in severe, terrible conditions .
Curtis: And your frustration you have been speaking about is simply that that will get overshadowed by all the different issues that swirl round the recreation, and the intrigues, and stuff like that?
Buck: Yeah. I simply suppose that that is the major story, is that all through all of this, and no matter has been the recounting of issues in actual time, and all people desirous to assign blame, and “Did it take too lengthy to cancel the recreation? Did the guys on TV screw it up?” I really feel prefer it was dealt with extraordinarily properly. I’m not speaking about us. I’m speaking about by the individuals on the subject. That’s like touchdown a aircraft on the Hudson, in my thoughts. And that could be overstating it, however I’m unsure that it’s. And I believe that that has gotten misplaced just a little bit. Certainly that they had their second on the subject earlier than the recreation in Buffalo this previous week, and Sean McDermott talked about it in his preliminary press convention, however I’m simply in awe of what was achieved on that subject that night time.