Reds president Phil Castellini, lower than a 12 months shy of creating his notorious Opening Day comments, spoke to a Reds supporters club on Saturday saying the Reds function like a “nonprofit,” calling baseball an “trade in disaster,” and bemoaning the state of a sport that has an elevated variety of groups out of competition on Opening Day.
Castellini and his father, team CEO Bob Castellini, have been the topic of many followers’ ire on-line since they began dismantling the team that made it to the playoffs within the COVID-19-shortened 2020 season.
Last Opening Day, Castellini alienated Reds followers by asking “the place you gonna go?” in response to the team buying and selling off some of its largest names earlier than the season began. On the team’s flagship radio station earlier than the house opener, Castellini stated the best way to make the team extra worthwhile and compete, “can be to select it up and transfer it some place else, so watch out what you want for.” Castellini doubled down on his comments in a pregame TV interview, however launched an announcement apologizing for his phrases after the sport.
Saturday, Castellini was the speaker at the Rosie Reds luncheon. The Rosie Reds is a philanthropic and social group fashioned in 1964 amid rumors that proprietor Bill DeWitt wished to maneuver the team to San Diego. The group was based as a “girls’s solely group” (however hasn’t been solely girls since 1967) and the identify Rosie was an acronym for “Rooters Organized to Stimulate Interest and Enthusiasm” within the Reds.
Castellini started his remarks by stating that he’d solely discovered lately that “Rosie” was an acronym and requested if others knew that. The members groaned and stated they did.
— desk 28 (@Kelly_Gretchen) January 14, 2023
It did not appear to get higher from there.
Reached Sunday, Karen Forgus, Reds senior vice president of enterprise operations, declined remark. Major League Baseball additionally declined remark.
Although it was a members-only occasion, Castellini’s remarks have been tweeted by a number of individuals in attendance.
Among his remarks was that the possession group ran the team like a “nonprofit.” Rosie Reds president Sara Mathews stated that was simply a part of the assertion, noting that she believed the general message was that Castellini meant the team to place any earnings again into the team. Others didn’t take that away from the remark.
“This team operates as a non-profit.”
— ☃️❄️Brooke🥂🍾 (@HawkeyeBrooke) January 14, 2023
“He opened up that discuss asserting that the Reds have been a nonprofit group,” stated Tracey Johnson, a season ticket holder and Rosie Reds member. “I’ve labored for 501(c)(3)s and I used to be appalled, to say the least. It went down from there. He was very a lot attempting to essentially again up, ‘hey, we’re attempting and the system is fastened in opposition to us.'”
Castellini bemoaned assured contracts within the recreation, asking the group, “is anybody right here paid to not do their job?”
Suzana Davis, a Rosie Reds board member who was in attendance on Saturday, stated she believed Castellini’s comment about assured contracts to be “tongue-in-cheek” and that total his comments have been misunderstood by these on social media.
Castellini additionally known as Major League Baseball a enterprise “in disaster,” noting the financial discrepancy between franchises as a consequence of particular person tv offers amongst different elements. Castellini introduced a slide present, together with a slide that declared there had been a 75 p.c improve since 2019 in groups which can be out of competition on Opening Day. He used FanGraphs’ playoff chance for that definition: his standards included groups listed as having a 25 p.c probability or much less of reaching the playoffs when the season begins.
— Amy (@amyeditress) January 14, 2023
The Reds have been a type of groups in 2022 and the expectation is that they are going to be as soon as once more in 2023.
For now, Castellini stated the team’s objective was “progress” from 2022.
Guys, we’re going to lose lower than 100. “Progress” pic.twitter.com/Uhos4ohtfA
— desk 28 (@Kelly_Gretchen) January 14, 2023
According to Johnson, Castellini celebrated the team’s farm system and famous the team had promising prospects who would at some point be nice Reds — after which joked then they’d be ex-Reds, saying, Johnson recalled, “in fact we will lose them.”
Johnson stated Castellini additionally bemoaned the economics of the sport and what he noticed as its inequities, together with new guidelines that can permit groups to promote promoting rights on uniforms. While that’s, in concept, a income generator, it is uneven in his thoughts, as he defined the Reds acquired $5 million for his or her promoting area whereas the Red Sox acquired $17 million.
“It was terrible. The largest a part of his presentation was his evaluation of the place the sport’s going, which is principally the regional sports activities networks are going to fold and it is not sustainable,” Johnson stated. “He was form of appearing prefer it was new data. And he stated within the subsequent two years there’s going to be the chance for the league to take again these rights.”
Mathews stated she was shocked when she noticed movies, photographs and tweets of Castellini’s comments.
“Overall, the sensation I bought within the room was optimistic,” Mathews stated. “I had fairly a number of individuals come as much as me and say they really appreciated the presentation. And even primarily based on the Q&A (it was optimistic).”
Mathews stated she felt the comments on-line have been restricted to a small group of attendees. Several individuals who tweeted from the occasion declined to remark or didn’t reply to interview requests.
Johnson stated most at her desk have been sad with the comments and some of her members determined to not attend when Castellini was introduced because the keynote speaker.
“It was a sizzling mess of a chat,” Johnson stated. “I do not know the way they might painting it another manner.”
Castellini declined to remark when reached concerning the occasion.
The Reds misplaced 100 video games in 2022, simply the second time in franchise historical past the team reached that doubtful milestone. Before the lockout following the 2021 season, the Reds traded Tucker Barnhart, didn’t tender a contract to Wade Miley and outfielder Nick Castellanos opted out of his contract. The Reds have been the one team to not make a big-league signing earlier than the lockout. After the lockout, the team traded away former All-Stars Sonny Gray, Jesse Winker and Eugenio Suárez, in addition to reliever Amir Garrett. The Reds opened the season 3-22 and misplaced 11 straight video games after Castellini’s comments.
At the commerce deadline, the Reds traded a number of veteran gamers, together with pitchers Luis Castillo and Tyler Mahle, in addition to Brandon Drury, Tyler Naquin and Tommy Pham. General supervisor Nick Krall was praised for his strikes all through baseball, getting what was seen as spectacular returns for the gamers traded. But it led to an inexperienced team, coupled with accidents to key gamers resembling Joey Votto, Tyler Stephenson and Mike Moustakas.
Moustakas, owed $22 million for the ultimate 12 months of his four-year, $64 million contract, was designated for task and launched. Moustakas was the final remaining participant from the team’s spending spree following the 2019 season. Then-president of baseball operations Dick Williams signed Moustakas, alongside with Castellanos, Miley, reliever Pedro Strop and outfielder Shogo Akiyama. Strop did not final lengthy, Castellanos opted at no cost company and a $100 million deal with the Phillies following the 2021 season, Miley was non-tendered and the Reds purchased out the ultimate season of Akiyama’s contract within the spring.
Castellini’s Opening Day comments and his “the place you gonna go?” rhetorical query have been punchlines all through the season because the team’s attendance dropped to 1,387,947 over 79 dwelling dates. Excluding the pandemic season of 2020, it was the bottom attendance complete within the 19-year historical past of Great American Ball Park and the bottom total since 1984. It was the fifth-lowest attendance complete in a full season for the reason that team moved from Crosley Field in 1970. The Reds drew even fewer followers than they did in 2021, when there have been attendance restrictions due to COVID-19.
The Rosie Reds, Mathews famous, had 150 extra members in 2022 than in 2021 and she or he stated membership numbers are trending in the same course for 2023. The Rosie Reds additionally assist youth baseball and softball amongst different philanthropic efforts.
Meeting with the Rosie Reds was a uncommon talking look for Castellini for the reason that Opening Day fiasco. Neither he nor his father took questions at RedsFest. Bob Castellini has typically participated in followers’ Q&As in the course of the team’s annual fan competition held each December. This 12 months, possession was noticeably absent from the programming.
(Photo of Castellini: John Minchillo / Associated Press)